If you discover that all your dirty laundry is hanging on the line for everyone to see, then follow the steps to take it down where its possible. Certain vendors of CVS Health are also required to be trained on the code of conduct. Worse, Google would only take them down if you wrote to them from the original email address. Or even non-protected characteristics. Anything beyond that is snooping. ), On the other hand, I have never bothered to look up my co-workers on the general internet (I have looked them up on various professional databases or other sites related to our field). Please, please do it. Theyve made things much more strict. Ive seen it too many times- the hiring manager will say Oh, theyre not working, so they should be happy to accept $10k below what they were making because theyre desperate. Its an awful practice and shame on their HR/Compensation partners who dont pushback and tell them its unacceptable. You were told. Technically, I suppose I should have researched it before buying a house in this county and just rented if I wanted privacy, but does that seem reasonable? If you opt for gift cards or similar for them, make sure they actually have access to the stores! Im talking about someone randomly googling a coworker, finding their address and driving there when you have no reason to do so. In our work environment its ok to ask about previous experience (but not go into too much detail) but asking about someones education would be considered odd. Im saying that you can ask the OPs question without having any interest in snooping on coworkers (or in trying to do something wrong), simply because its an interesting discussion, particularly after reading a post like the one they referenced. Maybe its not the right or nice thing to do, but, well, the internet is there, human curiosity knows no bounds, and rabbit-holing is a thing. Its not work-relevant that you stumbled onto someones explicit pix on a dating page (or courtesy of some revenge porn jerk) and you may be reasonably sure that a client will not recognize them in that gear, unless theyve changed in the same bathroom and seen the tatoo that confirmed it for you. I think its functionally little different than asking your neighbor if they know anything about the new people moving in across the street. Snooping and then telling people about it is where it gets weird and creepy. LinkedIn is fine. I have a coworker who makes a point of saying how she has googled all of us in our unit to find out our ages, and makes comments on things she has found on peoples social media, so she must be googling us regularly. Ive never been tempted to Google coworkers, but I have Googled dates. . ) Yes. (I cant get a beloved pizza place 2 miles from my house to deliver to me because their delivery area ends at the end of my block and they wont even meet me at the corner.). If they gave you a reason to think that, I could maybe see it. Thats not a typical situation. In my initial interactions with the start-up, I was able to avoid answering their initial questions about desired compensation and former salary, and the interview went ahead and went well. I know I can find deep stuff about people online that is not easy to find, but frankly in general thats not right. If you purposely put something out into the public domain/internet you should expect people to look at it. Sit on a board? Just like the LW I used to say she doesnt understand what I do. Youre right that ultimately it was on me to give her the information, but it was like talking to a brick wall. Just because we did things differently before the internet doesnt mean this information was less public. A lot of the time, people send their employees to training as a substitute for effectively managing performance. People are going to google each other. Working remotely has its own perks, so I dont think it has to be an every time thing, but being included makes you feel like part of the team/valued. Sowe asked her about the situation. That metaphor may be why our opinions diverge so wildly. Yes! Looking into someones private home is not the same as looking at something they posted publicly online, imo. Luckily the manager focused on their achievements and what they put in the resume, but woof am I grateful I have my facebook on lockdown. You are LITERALLY cultivating an online collection of data about yourself! The extreme majority of this content is placed online to be searched for and looked at. For me, the difference is the amount of effort taken. I know both of my suggestions would not be easy and would require a huge amount of work, but it can be done. Or someone with a family member with no filters. Yeah, I dont Google but I look up bosses, colleagues, and prospective employers on LinkedIn regularly. My super cringey late 90s teenage GeoCities site is permanently on archive.org and Im so very thankful that even exact phrase searches doesnt bring it up in Google searches. I didnt do a deep dive, I think I just looked at Linked in, and professional publications. I was on the hiring panel for a position recently and one of our top candidates was the subject of some newspaper stories that were a little concerning. They have. Make sure the card image you upload in the app includes your bin/grp/pcn/and member ID numbers. Why would I want to get to know someone if their social media has a bunch of homophobic stuff, for example? You dont need to answer, just consider that for an LGBTQ person, safety may not mean the same thing as it does to a cis/heterosexual person. Curious does not mean creepy. Its definitely retaliation. (I very deliberately do NOT add coworkers on any social media other than LinkedIn, and if asked, I say so directly.). If its a political candidates history of racist statements, then yes, do that deep dive and find out the information. If people are willing to post horrible opinions on public platforms (even if personal platforms), thats absolutely something useful for one to know at work. Module 800270 Answers FS : r/CVS - Reddit I know one other person who likes this combo- my brother. #5- One thing my previous employer did was when the team that was in the office together ordered pizza for a meeting or event, they had the remote team members order pizza to their homes and expense it. Posting on social media is like going on camera, live on the air, on CNN. You gave that permission. I thought, Oh, what cool community thing did Boss Lady ended up in the paper for? and clicked. To me, thats part of what LinkedIn is for. That info was never in the phone book, but its easily available now, and it definitely affects how people think about and respond to others. Like, in the interview for my current job the whole panel brought up several times that the company was the brainchild of the CEO, he was super involved in the day-to-day of the business, he had won a million awards for his work, I would probably interact with him a lot more than would be usual in another company, etc etc etc. I dont know, I think that there can be times when youre a normal level of curious about another person but there isnt a good time/reason to ask them to go into it. If youre searching for info on their personal life, thats an overstep does not so much apply. With that said, I dont think googling someone is a big deal, honestly. The industry limit for the client is $50 per person per year and so thats our limit too (because we dont want clients to get in trouble.) I think its kind of like gossip. She has no idea what we do and ignored us for the first three years, despite my repeated attempts to schedule meetings with her. Too much stuff! Hmmm, what did you say your username was on FetLife again?. Or youre getting the bio of Engineer Girls cousin, but figure that its the secret down low on Engineer Girl because what are the odds two people could be named Engineer Girl. Adapt as appropriate to your industry. If you google someone and find something you want to act on VERIFY IT! I have enough going in my own life to keep me occupied! Sometimes even with drink (I have no clue if it was coffee or not) in their hand. I would feel comfortable saying ^ in front of them and our boss, so it makes sense. So a lot of the stuff that can dug up is going to need to be evaluated in light of is this still relevant?and the answer is often no. Dont post it. Yeah, the combination of research tendencies and openly posted CVs makes for very different expectations. ), I love anchovies! Like, its weird to me when people asked me if I was still with my SO and if we were married when they could just check fb. Meanwhile my whole career Ive gotten loads of branded swag and lunches because I deal with logistics companies. I think googling a coworker and checking out their Linked In, Facebook, twitter, other social media is one thing and that is not the same as driving to someones house. As an example, weve got companies harvesting arrest data and putting it online to extort the people shown. LW 3: you sound all BEC with this job and company. I draw pretty strict lines about not doing that for people in general, and friends / coworkers / suppliers / clients in specific. Thats easy information to find, and is helpful context. No, I dont think performing a background check is a violation. If youre uncomfortable with what the law decides is public information, thats on you. Too damn bad. Those are typically compiled only from publicly available records the ones that go beyond public records typically requite you to have obtained consent and a social security number from the person youre looking up. You probably didnt do much research on drainage commissioner, but hey that name looks familiar. Mine is the same as a very very famous person who was born in the same year, and in the same city, as I was nobody can ever find me via a quick google search! And yes, I put it under the category of huge privilege.. I think it definitely depends on the salary of the employee in question, and also Id suggest that gift cards or something of the sort are preferable to reimbursement for meals, because for me, the cost of a $10 takeout order is DEFINITELY not worth the hassle of putting in an expense report. Googling a coworker for work reasons, LinkedIn, publications, etc. How much snooping can you do on coworkers? These are matters of personal safety. So, I googled a coworker with a more senior title than me. Thats not to say there are no problems here it certainly sounds like she still doesnt get on with the manager and the director above her, and this workplace might not be the best fit. If youre just looking up a coworkers linkedin profile or website to get a sense of their professional background, I think most people would consider that fine. 27-year-old me believed that people were entitled to have their pasts forgotten, but Today Me wouldnt even blink. I agree. Honestly? Its not necessarily that strange. I said it last time if people really want privacy about something dont post it online. So they worked (and billed for services) for *months* under a revoked license, until an entry-level staff member snooped and uncovered the truth. You are also missing something extremely important context. Input from the loyal commenter brigade is also appreciated. But yeah, its not inherently problematic that the director doesnt know the detail of the job. That sounds perfectly legitimate to me, and I dont think the OP will help themselves by assuming bad faith. You typically dont even have to go past the first page of results. Sure, but thats the company, not a random coworker. I think that first example might even get you asked to leave a restaurant depending on the context. I think you are kind of using that as an excuse honestly. It would have never occurred to me to google any of them and these letters are eye-opening. Thats not necessarily true. Im in a job with some pretty hefty commute times, so a lot of us dont live in the city where the job is. Well, a post like that should be something that an employer CAN follow up on. And on the recipient side, the gift policies (in terms of what you can receive) that City and State employees and employees of city and state contracted agencies are permitted to receive. Now I would make a distinction if that neighbor not only watched me from their window, but started following me when I went to the store, the gym, to friends houses etc. Other people dont have anything remarkable. I can understand doing this for a potential date, but not a new coworker. This Director knows how all things work. The HR professional then dug deeper into what was going on and the history of my role, apologized profusely for the unproductive way my team was transitioned to this new Director, seemed appropriately appalled by my treatment, then left and never spoke to me again until the meeting where I was transitioned to a new layer of management. Its time for you to educate yourself. It was pushed by one of the partners, who wanted some things done, had a general idea what he wanted, but didnt know exactly what was needed. Theyre highly likely to fall under that that threshold. greyclovds 7 mo. (Eg I have some coworkers that compete in different sports at a decently high level). I want to see what their backgrounds are : which universities and which companies. Personally, Id be creeped out by anything more than a cursory google search, but Im not going to kid myself that nobody I know has done more than that. @pleaset, good perspective and Im glad you posted this. And deliberately trying to learn that stuff is creepy, but way worse if I talk to them about it. I might not reference it to the candidate or hiring partner, but it helps me guide the interview process. This is an interesting exampleI recently ran across a reference to an architect and google image searched his name, figuring that was the easiest way to get a feel for his work. 9 ) Respected by colleagues and employees in all levels of the organization. I dont agree with people who argue that its morally OK to dig up absolutely *anything* because its technically public (if you have all day to correlate Marge Simpson to Marge Bouvier and know every trick to digging up 30-year-old Usenet posts). Ill have to try that. So while I probably wouldnt google a coworker, I wouldnt write it off completely for interns or employees if there are other reasons to be concerned about what may be coming up online that may impact the organization. A medical center employee snooped medical records of 1,309 patients over 15 months. I ended up coming into work late one day so I could drop everything and tour this house and put in an offer the very day it went on the market, so everyone at work knew more about my home-buying process than usual. Its all risk and no reward. Well, heres my experience for you. I dont care what they get up to personally, but professionally its useful what was their trajectory, what kinds of projects did they work on, etc. interviewing with a service dog in my lap, boss thinks Im a stonerbecauseI called out on 4/20, and more, I desperately need breaks between my back-to-back meetings, I manage a gay employee and our company is homophobic, a coworker told me I talk too much, Im still ruminating over a job I didnt take, and more, should I invite my team to my home for dinner, will my company expect me to work with my ex, and more, after I hired someone, a mutual friend told me Id made a huge mistake. Yes, I think anything on LinkedIn and professional sites counts as publicly visible.. Or the snooping behavior might be more nefarious. And hes very likely to scare anybody prone to being nervous. Second, things like private groups on Usenet are now publicly available. (Presumably eventually the pattern would be noticeable, but for that to happen it would need to first have an impact. Looking at your coworkers public work is an essential part of knowing what they actually do. If a coworker shares "work" with someone and a colleague shares the duties of an office for which they were "chosen" together, a companion is the person one shares "bread" (in Latin, panis) with. I guess to me this is one of those situations where just because you can doesnt mean you should. Better yet, come back and say it was so good everyone should go. PVR I so agree with you. Finance (including fin-tech) falls under government regulations, so employees cant accept or make gifts above a certain limit & of certain types. I hate pizza lunches and would rather have a card I can take to where I want to go (on my own time). Practically everything on social media is posted with express permission from the user., Facebook literally makes profiles of people who have never been on Facebook. OP, I think whatever you do doing something is better than nothing. Showing an upper level HR person the physical result might be useful. If you feel your personal safety is at risk, screw politeness at that point. I have snooped WITH my boss to find an instagram account dedicated to our coworkers llama. These days, I imagine its pretty easy to just fire everyone off some kind of food-related gift cert. If you check in on Facebook everywhere you go, MAYBE it should not come as a huge shock when people know where you were every Tuesday at 7. Maybe an obituary of a relative. You are in public and everyone can see what you do. Im guessing the LW was probably thinking about this level of research, but was wondering how close it is to being inappropriate. They organize a ton of social after-hours type events for on-site employees so getting something special made me feel like I had my own alternate way to celebrate even though Im not there. I am constantly receiving Starbucks giftcards that are of no use to me, since I dont drink coffee or tea. I would caution the OP that not everybody is enthusiastic about coffee, so something a little less specific than Starbucks might be a good idea. Instead, do it late in the hiring process, in a similar way you do reference checks, to check for egregious behavior that you would consciously use to pull an offer. Coworker: "one who works with another : a fellow worker". I recently had an interview at a -. Its a way to undermine you and make you feel small. Theres plenty of information about me on the internet that I never consented to be put there but have no control over taking it down. If you dont understand what youre agreeing to, hire a lawyer to explain it to you. I will stand on this hill with you. UberEats and Postmates dont cover this area. I rarely take swag. I dont think doing a check on a date, coach or look up sex offender registries is insane at all. Mike Monteiro has told a story of people being added to a Facebook group without consent, implying or reveal the status of their sexuality. Start managing up a lot more. The brain does a whole ton of shortcuts, and then backfills logical rational reasons that was the objective, rational thing to do if you look at the question logically. Its five answers to five questions. Not to make assumptions but the tone of a few of the things in LW3 raised an eyebrow and if thats how they are presenting themselves around the office I could see why things arent going well. Ive actually reverse image searched some people from LinkedIn something sometimes just seems really off with some people. End up in a new story? Then the management devolved to the head of the law library, who seemed to see our project as some sort of attack on his authority.
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