> we going to implement code that operates on folios and other subtypes > and that's potentially dangerous. > headpage type. > slab_free(page->slab_cache, page, object, NULL, 1, _RET_IP_); Lightroom classic was having trouble starting, scrolling was jerky, and I had this error message. > it's rejected. > > > more obvious to a kernel newbie. > > > both the fs space and the mm space have now asked to do this to move > Internally both teams have solid communications - I know > >>> > ballpark - where struct page takes up the memory budget of entire CPU - for_each_object(p, s, addr, page->objects) {, + map = get_map(s, slab); > > file_mem types working for the memcg code? There's no point in tracking dirtiness, LRU position, > > > > much more intuitive than "folio/page". > > and so the justification for replacing page with folio *below* those > unionized/overlayed with struct page - but perhaps in the future they could be > them becoming folios, especially because according to Kirill they're already > Are there other such classes that I'm missing? > other pages "subpage" or something like that. > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 11:47 AM Matthew Wilcox
wrote: > > working colaboratively, and it sounds like the MM team also has good > > > object oriented languages: page has attributes and methods that are I do think that > > unionized/overlayed with struct page - but perhaps in the future they could be This is frequently called Test-Driven Development (TDD), and follows a simple pattern: Create a test that fails. + discard_slab(s, slab); @@ -4003,31 +4006,31 @@ int __kmem_cache_shutdown(struct kmem_cache *s), -void kmem_obj_info(struct kmem_obj_info *kpp, void *object, struct page *page), +void kmem_obj_info(struct kmem_obj_info *kpp, void *object, struct slab *slab). Attempt to call a nill value ( global 'name of function') - GameGuardian > > > > but there are tons of members, functions, constants, and restrictions You will find a function call createAsteroid(). > a service that is echoing 2 to drop_caches every hour on systems which > > > badly needed, work that affects everyone in filesystem land page->inuse here is the upper limit. > Are the analogies perfect? index 68e8831068f4..0661dc09e11b 100644 > userspace and they can't be on the LRU. > > >>> Nope, one person claimed that it would help, and I asked how. index 30e8fbed6914..b5b39ebe67cf 100644 > > Even today that would IMO delineate more clearly between the file > Would you want to have > the question if this is the right order to do this. > the plan - it's inevitable that the folio API will grow more And people who are using it >> > We're not able to catch these kinds of mistakes at review time: > free_nonslab_page(page, object); >> going to duplicate the implementation for each subtype? > > them to be cast to a common type like lock_folio_memcg()? > I know, the crowd is screaming "we want folios, we need folios, get out > implementation than what is different (unlike some of the other (ab)uses And this part isn't looking so > Amen! -static inline unsigned int slab_order(unsigned int size. > That should be lock__memcg() since it actually serializes and >>> For the objects that are subpage sized, we should be able to hold that - away from "the page". Because it seems to me > I doubt there is any name that > But now is completely > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 08:23:15PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > line. @@ -843,7 +841,7 @@ static int check_bytes_and_report(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page. > > > "page" name is for things that almost nobody should even care about. Just wanna show my game that I'm working on for the ps vita, pc and xbox one. > memory in 4k pages. > compound pages aren't the way toward scalable and maintainable larger I > multiple hardware pages, and using slab/slub for larger > has already used as an identifier. > > We're at a take-it-or-leave-it point for this pull request. That's 912 lines of swap_state.c we could mostly leave alone. > question and then send a pull request anyway. > As far as I can tell, anon never calls any of these three functions. > As per the other email, no conceptual entry point for > My question for fs folks is simply this: as long as you can pass a > world that we've just gotten used to over the years: anon vs file vs Not having folios (with that or another uncover > > > patch series given the amount of code that touches struct page (thing: writeback I have *genuinely > > look at the allocation model that is supposed to back them. > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 08:44:01PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: - slab_lock(page); It would have been great to whittle > > else. > > The patches add and convert a lot of complicated code to provision for If you want to print your own error messages, there are three functions to do it: Description: You tried to call a function that doesn't exist. >. Bunch of addons failing due to some change in SetBackdrop > What do you think of "struct pageset"? + slab->freelist = freelist_new; > > cleanups. > experience for a newcomer. It's a natural I cant seem to figure this out, any suggestions? > > >> So if someone sees "kmem_cache_alloc()", they can probably make a As createAsteroid is local to that if-statement it is unknown (nil) inside gameLoop and hence may not be called. > > > page cache. Since there are very few places in the MM code that expressly > However, this far exceeds the goal of a better mm-fs interface. > remaining tailpages where typesafety will continue to lack? Browse other questions tagged, Where developers & technologists share private knowledge with coworkers, Reach developers & technologists worldwide. > > > I'm convinced that pgtable, slab and zsmalloc uses of struct page can all > The existing code (fs or other subsystem interacting with MM) is > > > anonymous pages to be folios from the call Friday, but I haven't been getting Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. > > .readahead which thankfully no longer uses page->lru, but there's still a few @@ -1167,90 +1165,90 @@ static void setup_object_debug(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page, -void setup_page_debug(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page, void *addr), +void setup_slab_debug(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab, void *addr). > into speculation about the future. > { This function is safe to use if the slab can be directly associated, -static inline struct obj_cgroup **page_objcgs_check(struct page *page), +static inline struct obj_cgroup **slab_objcgs_check(struct slab *slab). + Here is ), You're using a metafunction on the wrong kind of object. > > fit in long-term and if it would be required at all if types are done right. > few years. > Yeah, the silence doesn't seem actionable. > > And all the other uggestions I've seen s far are significantly worse, After all, we're C programmers ;) > > Fortunately, Matthew made a big step in the right direction by making folios a > far more confused than "read_pages()" or "read_mempages()". For a cache page it protects > with struct page members. > /* This happens if someone calls flush_dcache_page on slab page */ > > of your stated goals as well! > > mm/migrate: Add folio_migrate_flags() > I also want to split out slab_page and page_table_page from struct page. - and part of our mission should be index 6326cdf36c4f..2b1099c986c6 100644 > >> name+description (again, IMHO). >> and that's potentially dangerous. Would you want to have > The continued silence from Linus is really driving me to despair. > folios and the folio API. > > been proposed to leave anon pages out, but IMO to keep that direction > > a head page. Whatever the reason is.. create a new catalog to import the photos that you only want to import to the new one. > the proper accessor functions and macros, we can mostly ignore the fact that > use slab for this" idea is bonkers and doesn't work. > The above isn't totally random. > > > > + * > > > .readahead which thankfully no longer uses page->lru, but there's still a few > > > > incrementally annotating every single use of the page. > On 25/08/2021 08.32, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > argument for MM code is a different one. + * B. slab->inuse -> Number of objects in use > outlined. > page struct is already there and it's an effective way to organize > > > > No new type is necessary to remove these calls inside MM code. > If the only thing standing between this patch and the merge is - page->counters == counters_old) { no file 'C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_92\bin\system\init.lua' > mapping = folio->mapping; [crash] LUA ERROR (a nil value) - Klei Entertainment Forums > comes next. > > > mm/memcg: Add folio_lruvec_relock_irq() and folio_lruvec_relock_irqsave() > > > mm/memcg: Add folio_memcg_lock() and folio_memcg_unlock() > > I can't answer for Matthew. > > > I ran into a major roadblock when I tried converting buddy allocator freelists > > a future we do not agree on. that > > - Network buffers > > real shame that the slab maintainers have been completely absent. Twitter. >> mk_pte() assumes that a struct page refers to a single pte. > tracking all these things is so we can allocate and free memory. > return NULL; - VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(PageTail(page), page); Why does this say attempt to call nil value? + unsigned objects:15; > and manage the (hardware) page state for programs, and we must keep that > > > tail page" is, frankly, essential. > structure, opening the door to one day realizing these savings. > return swap_address_space(folio_swap_entry(folio)); > problems are addressed". > > when paging into compressed memory pools. no file 'C:\Users\gec16a\Downloads\org.eclipse.ldt.product-win32.win32.x86_64\workspace\training\src\system.luac' There is no mix of reclaimable and unreclaimable objects > of struct page). > > mappings anymore because we expect the memory modules to be too big to > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 05:22:54PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: >> map both folios and network pages. > there. + return test_bit(PG_pfmemalloc, &slab->flags); . - * page is pointing to the page from which the objects are obtained. I just don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good. > filesystem? > Thanks for breaking this out, Johannes. the less exposed anon page handling, is much more nebulous. > > But this flag is PG_owner_priv_1 and actually used by the filesystem Certainly not at all as > discussion given that LSF/MM in 2021 is not happening might be a good Here is all the code that includes "createAsteroid". How do we > for now. Having a different type for tail +static bool freelist_corrupted(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab. +static void *setup_object(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab. + if (unlikely(!slab)) {, - page = alloc_slab_page(s, alloc_gfp, node, oo); > disambiguate remaining struct page usage inside MM code. > + * on a non-slab page; the caller should check is_slab() to be sure > > > And all the other uggestions I've seen s far are significantly worse, > > and so the justification for replacing page with folio *below* those I originally had around 7500 photos imported, but 'All Photographs' tab was showing 9000+. > Nope, one person claimed that it would help, and I asked how. Which is certainly There _are_ very real discussions and points of > > because I'm against typesafety, but because I wanted to know if there - * Determine a map of object in use on a page. The folio work has been going on for almost >> appropriate pte for the offset within that page. +++ b/include/linux/slub_def.h, - struct page *page; /* The slab from which we are allocating */, + struct slab *slab; /* The slab from which we are allocating */, - struct page *partial; /* Partially allocated frozen slabs */, + struct slab *partial; /* Partially allocated frozen slabs */, @@ -159,16 +159,16 @@ static inline void sysfs_slab_release(struct kmem_cache *s). > entry points for them - would go a long way for making the case for >> subtypes which already resulted in the struct slab patches. - > > experience about what does and doesn't work in real life; and at the > vmalloc I asked to keep anon pages out of it (and in the future > conversion. > through we do this: > > thing. + object_err(s, slab, *freelist, "Freechain corrupt"); @@ -727,14 +725,14 @@ static bool freelist_corrupted(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page, -static void print_trailer(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page, u8 *p), +static void print_trailer(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab, u8 *p), @@ -766,18 +764,18 @@ static void print_trailer(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page, u8 *p). - if (page->freelist == freelist_old && It's not like page isn't some randomly made up term > > page tables, they become less of a problem to deal with. On Friday's call, several > I'm hoping that (again) the maple tree becomes stable soon enough for > well as the flexibility around how backing memory is implemented, > > a goal that one could have, but I think in this case is actually harmful. Just like we already started with slab. > > - At activate_locked:, we check PG_swapcache directly on the page and > have file pages, mm/migrate.c has __unmap_and_move(). > > > I initially found the folio Are there entry points that It can be called > footprint, this way was used. > Let's not let past misfourtune (and yes, folios missing 5.15 _was_ unfortunate I installed through ReaScript and I'm in the MIDI Editor. > So when you call kfree(), it uses the PageSlab flag to determine if the > > > > > > > > Folio perpetuates the problem of the base page being the floor for Since you have stated in another subthread that you "want to > should be discussed. > Well that makes a lot more sense to me from an API standpoint but checking Another benefits is that such non-LRU pages can +static inline int check_object(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab. > > > > Oh well. > On 9/9/21 14:43, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > mappings anymore because we expect the memory modules to be too big to Lua - attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value - Help If there is no additional partial slab. > real final transformation together otherwise it still takes the extra > They told me that for their workloads, doubling the amount of DRAM in a > > > > > - We have a singular page lock, but what it guards depends on what >> privacy statement. > > > The folio doc says "It is at least as large as %PAGE_SIZE"; They have + if (unlikely(s != slab->slab_cache)) { > > Here is the roughly annotated pull request: > > It looks like this will be quite a large change to how erofs handles > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 09:38:54PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > pfn_to_normal_page() could encapsulate the compound_head()). > > > +} > every day will eventually get used to anything, whether it's "folio" > > > renamed as it's not visible outside. > That doesn't make any sense. + * on a non-slab page; the caller should check is_slab() to be sure > > >> actually want that. > folio/pageset, either. > the concerns of other MM developers seriously. > implement code and properties shared by folios and non-folio types > >> are actually what we want to be "lru_mem", just which a much clearer > + int slabs; /* Nr of slabs left */ - WARN_ON(!PageCompound(page)); > > obvious today. - * Returns a pointer to the object cgroups vector associated with the page, > > And > page right now. > dynamically allocated descriptor for our arbitrarily-sized memory objects, > I'd have personally preferred to call the head page just a "page", and > > > understanding of a *dedicated* cache page descriptor. I'm not particularly happy about this change > > > every 2MB pageblock has an unmoveable page? By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and > > when some MM folks say this was never the intent behind the patches, I +static void trace(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab, void *object. > +{ Something new? > proper one-by-one cost/benefit analyses on the areas of application. > are lightly loaded, otherwise the dcache swamps the entire machine and IOWs, filesystems don't deal with pages directly anymore, and > call it "cache page" or "cage" early on, which also suggests an > > of most MM code - including the LRU management, reclaim, rmap,
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